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The zealotry is indicative of mental illness, akin to that of followers who met their excruciating end at Jonestown. Trump refers to “the movement” in the same terms and with the same fervor and fanaticism as the leader who commanded those troubled souls to leave their happy homes, follow him blindly and drink his kool-aid. There is NO difference.

Expose “the movement”. Then pull its legs off. The process has begun: Trump is losing his beloved golf tournament. The name will be a curse and the brand pure garbage. Those who stood by his side and enabled the squandering of America will find it impossible to return to any vestige of a happy and reasonable life. Jared called Hollywood looking to resituate his flailing staff. Unless it’s Hollywood UAE he doesn’t have a shot and neither do they. Corporate America says NIMBY. And so go the rest of us.

Those who commit crimes must be held to account. Our laws must be enforced. Our police must be protected. All those who incited, encouraged or enabled them (including members of Congress) must be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. When they leave prison they should be banned and shunned, lose all privileges and wear an invisible Scarlet T for treason.

But we cannot hate them all.

This is the time we must look to medicine and brain science for answers. Dr Bandy Lee and others have them. Once treated with disdain and scorned by even the most open minded of media, she is finally being credited as the visionary she is.

We cannot shame and shun them all. Our country needs mass deprogramming. Let the experts lead.

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DAY 9 of the U.S. CAPITOL ATTACK

First of all, I want to say that Greg, you don't have to present your case from a defensive position. I presume you are getting flak for your case elsewhere in your world, perhaps Twitter, wherever you hang out in your favorite forum, hence the defensive posture.

You haven't presented anything questionable or unjustifiable.

The problem is this: all of us are in shock. No one wants to believe, present company included, that an armed and organized insurrection against our democratic institutions and democratically elected leaders has just occurred. It takes time to move from denial and disbelief to acceptance of an unpleasant (horrifying, shocking, disturbing, deeply distressing) reality.

We are learning more and more about the workings of Trump's U.S. Capitol attack with each passing day. So from one day to the next, new information is coming out about the extent of the attack. Each day, we are having to adjust our perspective of what really happened here.

It takes time to accept a truth so horrible.

It is Day 9 after the attack. Someone out there should be keeping count, like Brian Williams on MSNBC keeps count of Day XXX of the Trump Administration.

I say again, it is Day 9 of the U.S. Capitol Attack.

From the day of the attack, I have been deeply disturbed. So has my wife. So have a lot of people. Long before we had any real information at all about the nature of the attack, we have been deeply disturbed. This event is all-consuming. This event has pushed aside other projects and activities in our lives, because it's such a big deal.

Now we are all beginning to understand the reason for the depth of the shock, the reason why we have felt so deeply disturbed. Notice I use the word "beginning." We are still in the beginning stages of seeing the depth and breadth of this horrifying event.

When was the last time members of Congress conspired with radicals and extremists, oh, and just an afterthought, the President himself, to attempt to overthrow our democracy in order to get their way?

The Civil War.

The Civil War is an apt historical reference point, because maybe we didn't realize it, but the Civil War is still alive and well. The Civil War never ended. It just turned into a Cold War, an underground war.

You may think, "What is this fool saying? We don't have slavery anymore. We don't have Union generals fighting Confederate generals."

The Civil War is a social struggle, a power struggle between two social orders. The old social order of whites-first, males-first, straights-first vs. the new egalitarian social order. Red and Blue. Red = whites, males and straights come first, they get special privileges and benefits over non-whites, females, and non-straights. Conversely, Blue = human equality, all humans have equal rights and privileges.

Of course we are not limited to just the 3 categories listed here. Ancestry and ethnicity goes along with racial heritage.

My wife was watching all this on TV as it happened. She saw the man with the Camp Auschwitz T-shirt in motion, in action. She saw the back of his T-shirt. Know what it says?

"Staff"

Camp Auschwitz Staff

What do Lauren Boebert, the other members of Congress who are complicit, the men with the plastic handcuffs destined to capture Pence and Pelosi and others, our dearly beloved and dearly departed President, and Mr. Staff Person at Auschwitz have in common?

They want desperately to maintain the old social order.

They want to return to the past, when whites came first and when Blacks, Jews, women and non-straights (and yes non-Christians) could be dominated and persecuted.

Yes, we are in the middle of a civil war, a war in our society, a war between 2 opposing sides with mutually exclusive positions.

Which side are you on?

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