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Yes. I am grateful for a sense of humor every day. It's a blessing that sociopaths clearly lack.

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One reason to think about the Roman Empire is how it arose from the Roman Republic it destroyed. Following the final Roman victory in the Third Punic War, Rome was the strongest power around, an empire in all but name outside its borders. The attempt to remain a Republic domestically while being an empire internationally created a tension that took about 245 years to reconcile. Those making money from the Empire became increasingly unwilling to put up with the restrictions of the Republic and bought and paid for those willing to knock it down. Those who represented the people not getting rich from the Empire sought to maintain the Republic by keeping the Empire under control, with intermittent success.

Eventually the corruption of the Republic created by the ones getting rich from the Empire led to its increasing dysfunction and the common people wanted to Make It Stop. They supported Julius Caesar, who was both successful militarily and a successful political populist. Most people with at least a semi-education beyond public school know the basics of the rest of that story.

The story of Rome has much to do with the story of the United States, since the Founders were all readers of Polybius, who had outlined the strengths of the Roman Republic that allowed it to fight and win the Punic Wars despite much travail in the process (in the First Punic War the Roman army was defeated by Hannibal every year for ten years. The Romans raised a new army every year regardless; the army raised in the 11th year defeated Hannibal.) The founders thus formally adopted the structure of the Roman Republic, since it was the longest-lived Republic, in hopes the problems of that system would be dealt with successfully by people of virtue, people like the Romans who won the Punic Wars.

The Second World War was our Punic Wars and the American republic became an empire internationally while attempting to remain a republic domestically. Like Rome, those making money from the Empire have become increasingly unwilling to accept the restrictions of the Republic. In our case it didn't take 245 years, since it no longer takes six months for the memo to reach all interested parties for a decision to be made. We're at the point Cicero wrote about where the corruption and rot started to become obvious. It's been done within the lifetime of a person (me) born on the high tide of the American Republic, the year America liberated the world.

So yeah, there's a lot of reason to look to the Roman example. To me, it's for lessons of what not to do. The old Roman republicans saw the problem and the solution, but weren't strong enough to execute it. We need to smack down the oligarchs making money from the Empire and destroy their power if we want to keep a Republic.

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