Hahahahaha! That line! Omg! “Congress figure it out!” Josh Harley fleeing in terror from a crowd he riled up! Hahahahaha. That’s the caliber brains half the country sends to Congress, where they either try to turn themselves into aristocracy or they block every effort to improve and protect the US. Mark Twain was right. The only truly criminal class in America is Congress.
OMG, Greg! There are still places on the internet where you can find people that would react to what you write about Bernie as sacrilege! I am not one of them. Even against Donald Trump, Bernie probably would have lost the general election, mostly by people not voting top of the ticket. I probably would have been one of those people in any other year but 2020, but I still think he would have lost.
Bernie supporters and Trump supporters have a lot in common. One of the major things is that neither group seems to know 1) what's actually GOOD for them, and 2) that a primary is NOT a general election. Both groups support their candidates for the wrong reasons, one because he makes the libs cry, and the other because he SAYS a lot of stuff that will never come true. Oh, wait, they both do that. Both candidates are cranky old men with rabid followers. Both candidates are not real members of their respective parties, they just use them to get what they want and to form a sort of legitimacy they would never have as an Independent. Both candidates have bad hair.
It's not exactly the mysterious memes of Lincoln vs JFK, but it's telling, nonetheless. And that's what both Bernie and Trump should remain: parlor games that are never put into power. We've had quite enough destruction for this lifetime.
“You’re quite sure Sanders would have defeated Trump.”
Hillary, Bernie, Joe Biden: all of them are just a means to an end. There is a subscriber on both Heather’s site and on Lucian Truscott’s site who has massive contempt for Berners, or whatever they’re called on FB or Tw. I wouldn’t know, I don’t play in those cauldrons. But somehow he seems to distinguish between them (Berners) and Bernie Sanders supporters.
I am a proud Bernie Sanders supporter. Everything that I’ve ever heard come out of that man’s mouth is a position I endorse. My wife, an ardent feminist and a sexism bloodhound who can detect any trace of misogyny no matter how faint or well hidden, also supports him. Now he may have kinky sexual misconduct in his past, tell me one sex-addicted celebrity white male who doesn’t. Certainly Hillary isn’t simon pure, that’s for sure. Go read up on her personal history if you think she’s an angel or a saint.
But none of us here should give a damn about any of that. No person in their right mind would sit out a presidential election, or in protest refuse to vote for Hillary in 2016 or Joe in 2020. Those two people are the ones I voted for, even though they weren’t my first choice in the primary. So what. Big deal. You gonna vote for Trump instead? Are you going to leave the top of the ticket blank? Only the woefully immature will resort to petulant, self-destructive behavior of that sort.
Republicans and the Russian oligarch mafia alike are racist. Also sexist and misogynist, also antisemitic, also genderist. They are relics of our clouded, medieval past, and they have so much in common that it’s no surprise that they work together.
We who are on the right side of history, which means equal rights for all humans, will support that cause even if one’s first preference doesn’t make it to the top of the ticket in the general election. I had serious doubts about Joe Biden, but the man has been sterling in so many ways. Don’t bother listing all the problems and faults and mistakes, we all know what they are: the bottom line is, would you rather have Trump? It’s the starkest choice possible, the choice between a Democratic president or a Republican president.
Right now, the anti-diversity, racist, sexist and genderist coalition is all grouped together in the Republican party, which is more fractured than it has ever been in our lifetime. There were no less than 7 or 8 different anti-Trump Republican influence groups in 2016, and if anything else, the divisions within the ranks of the medievals have worsened.
Criticizing candidates within the Democratic Party is a mistake. What we all share is the desire for an egalitarian society, where we all love each other as equals. Besides, anybody who uses their brain can see that every human is equal in principle to every other human. If you want everyone to be treated with respect, instead of having superiors and inferiors in society, there is no value and no benefit to criticizing or attacking the people who are actually your allies and friends.
Jul 22, 2022·edited Jul 22, 2022Liked by Greg Olear
While I do have a FB account, it is not my favorite social media "go to." In fact, I don't have a favorite online anything, other than reading substack articles and the comments of other subscribers. On FB, I am rather circumspect, since the FB police are wont to throw one in FB prison for silly things. I do use it to share substack articles and other online news (WaPo for example). That said, I do not understand how the ad thing works on FB. Ads there are to me nothing but a nuisance and are easily ignored. Is there a demographic out there that is attracted to ads or is easily influenced by them? I simply don't get it. (And FWIW, ads on TV affect me the same way. Nuisances. All of them.)
Your last sentence is very powerful.
"Digital voter suppression is still voter suppression."
Hahahahaha! That line! Omg! “Congress figure it out!” Josh Harley fleeing in terror from a crowd he riled up! Hahahahaha. That’s the caliber brains half the country sends to Congress, where they either try to turn themselves into aristocracy or they block every effort to improve and protect the US. Mark Twain was right. The only truly criminal class in America is Congress.
I almost spit my coffee when I read the Trilby line. 😂
OMG, Greg! There are still places on the internet where you can find people that would react to what you write about Bernie as sacrilege! I am not one of them. Even against Donald Trump, Bernie probably would have lost the general election, mostly by people not voting top of the ticket. I probably would have been one of those people in any other year but 2020, but I still think he would have lost.
Bernie supporters and Trump supporters have a lot in common. One of the major things is that neither group seems to know 1) what's actually GOOD for them, and 2) that a primary is NOT a general election. Both groups support their candidates for the wrong reasons, one because he makes the libs cry, and the other because he SAYS a lot of stuff that will never come true. Oh, wait, they both do that. Both candidates are cranky old men with rabid followers. Both candidates are not real members of their respective parties, they just use them to get what they want and to form a sort of legitimacy they would never have as an Independent. Both candidates have bad hair.
It's not exactly the mysterious memes of Lincoln vs JFK, but it's telling, nonetheless. And that's what both Bernie and Trump should remain: parlor games that are never put into power. We've had quite enough destruction for this lifetime.
Yet another argument for avoiding the “hellscape” of Facebook, and why I don’t indulge in that tasteless odorless poison.
Must Read interview with Rick Wilson (it’s pretty short)
https://hac.bard.edu/amor-mundi/the-hellscape-that-is-facebook-2020-08-06
“You’re quite sure Sanders would have defeated Trump.”
Hillary, Bernie, Joe Biden: all of them are just a means to an end. There is a subscriber on both Heather’s site and on Lucian Truscott’s site who has massive contempt for Berners, or whatever they’re called on FB or Tw. I wouldn’t know, I don’t play in those cauldrons. But somehow he seems to distinguish between them (Berners) and Bernie Sanders supporters.
I am a proud Bernie Sanders supporter. Everything that I’ve ever heard come out of that man’s mouth is a position I endorse. My wife, an ardent feminist and a sexism bloodhound who can detect any trace of misogyny no matter how faint or well hidden, also supports him. Now he may have kinky sexual misconduct in his past, tell me one sex-addicted celebrity white male who doesn’t. Certainly Hillary isn’t simon pure, that’s for sure. Go read up on her personal history if you think she’s an angel or a saint.
But none of us here should give a damn about any of that. No person in their right mind would sit out a presidential election, or in protest refuse to vote for Hillary in 2016 or Joe in 2020. Those two people are the ones I voted for, even though they weren’t my first choice in the primary. So what. Big deal. You gonna vote for Trump instead? Are you going to leave the top of the ticket blank? Only the woefully immature will resort to petulant, self-destructive behavior of that sort.
Republicans and the Russian oligarch mafia alike are racist. Also sexist and misogynist, also antisemitic, also genderist. They are relics of our clouded, medieval past, and they have so much in common that it’s no surprise that they work together.
We who are on the right side of history, which means equal rights for all humans, will support that cause even if one’s first preference doesn’t make it to the top of the ticket in the general election. I had serious doubts about Joe Biden, but the man has been sterling in so many ways. Don’t bother listing all the problems and faults and mistakes, we all know what they are: the bottom line is, would you rather have Trump? It’s the starkest choice possible, the choice between a Democratic president or a Republican president.
Right now, the anti-diversity, racist, sexist and genderist coalition is all grouped together in the Republican party, which is more fractured than it has ever been in our lifetime. There were no less than 7 or 8 different anti-Trump Republican influence groups in 2016, and if anything else, the divisions within the ranks of the medievals have worsened.
Criticizing candidates within the Democratic Party is a mistake. What we all share is the desire for an egalitarian society, where we all love each other as equals. Besides, anybody who uses their brain can see that every human is equal in principle to every other human. If you want everyone to be treated with respect, instead of having superiors and inferiors in society, there is no value and no benefit to criticizing or attacking the people who are actually your allies and friends.
While I do have a FB account, it is not my favorite social media "go to." In fact, I don't have a favorite online anything, other than reading substack articles and the comments of other subscribers. On FB, I am rather circumspect, since the FB police are wont to throw one in FB prison for silly things. I do use it to share substack articles and other online news (WaPo for example). That said, I do not understand how the ad thing works on FB. Ads there are to me nothing but a nuisance and are easily ignored. Is there a demographic out there that is attracted to ads or is easily influenced by them? I simply don't get it. (And FWIW, ads on TV affect me the same way. Nuisances. All of them.)
Oh, boy. Not fun when you see it in print. Now I'll go see what my ears have to say about it as I listen to Prevail. Thank you, Greg!
We must be related. We laugh at the same goofy ones!
My pleasure.
Shireen Mitchell is spectacular.