"and Pence was in charge". That statement almost made me fall off my chair !!! Oh, how I would have loved to have been a fly on the wall in that room. My imagination runs wild though. I can picture it perfectly.
I am so glad you decided to write about Pence. I like to think of him like a wet dishrag, limp.
I have never watched the Sopranos, I guess it's time I made popcorn and gave it a go. Thanks, Greg this was a FUN read.
you all need bigger hearts. this one knocks it out of the park Mr. Olear. I never thought Pence was anything other than your accounting of him. His cruelty, his repressed self, his insertion by Paulie Ostrich Coat . . . He's a very dirty boy and I live long enough to see it all come out.
I never thought about all the chances Pence and the GOP had to rescue the nation from Trump, and the only reasonable conclusion to draw is that they are all in on Trump's crimes because they are all piece of property at this point. That transition team is bursting with crimers. I want all the dirt. I still think that the hacked but never released RNC emails are the fire source and I really don't understand why that factoid has just died and everyone on the bus is OK with that. Why did Lady G roll over? Why did Flake and Corker get the phuck out of dodge--that smells like intentional distancing. Mittens is covered by "i wasn't around" for all that. Liza and Ben Sasse are the biggest puzzles for me. Susan Collins husband does business in Russia. It's all about the dirty dirty money. i want all the dirt on the table. why is that so tough?
The fact Pence is barely 60 and acts like he is 80 is another bizarre characteristic of this man made of wood. When is the reckoning with the religious right going to happen?
As ever, a painfully cogent report on the criminals at the top of our “democracy.” Yet will any of these mobsters get their due under Biden, if under “God?” Doubtful. Soul crushing shit, Greg. But thank you. LB
I’m in total agreement with your take on Mike Pence, his role as Vice President, and his more than obvious lies, so telling when he blushes, turns all serious or is indignant at the question.
I’ve always wondered why Paul Manafort would have even known Pence, never mind choosing him as Trumps running mate, after all Manafort spent much of his time in Ukraine, or Russia, handling the oligarch Deripaska campaigns etc. Did Putin or mafya even know who Pence was?
Did Manafort’s partner Gates know about these matters and did he tell the feds when he made the deal?
This goes back to my thoughts on why Republicans support Trump in the first place-way back to the initial hacking of the DNC and the RNC. There would have been plenty of dirt to be had on every Republican by hacking their email, likely there would also been a few that already had ties to Russia or Ukraine for business dealings-ie Devin Nunes and his winery business-possibly loans from those oligarchs in Russia/Ukraine. Certainly it’s said that Rand Paul also had ties there, who knows why, but he’s certainly showing his treason now.
Trumpkins still supporting Trump do so because of his policy to wipe out everything Obama did while president, Trumps deregulation, and tax breaks, gives the 1% more money to play the rising stock market—$$ is their god, making more money for those who have money is sport.
First, I think the GOP is as crooked as the day is long, and the lightly-laundered Russian campaign funds have locked them into obedience to Putin & Co.
Second, the Tea Party proved that assholes could take ahold of the primary process, for which the majority of the party were simply uninterested. Thus, all the GOP crooks and their crimes would be exposed after their defeat in the rabid base-controlled primaries.
Third, with MangoWanker at the top, and the BarrWanker as AG, they knew (and still know) they will never be prosecuted as long as they keep MangoWanker in the White House. This is why so many signed onto the various "overthrow the election" gambits. They are desperate.
Fourth, they are all packed and ready to move to Moscow in 2021. Just look at the Republican camping trip to Moscow in 2018. They were scoping out dachas north of Moscow to flee for retirement.
Fifth, all the GOP traitors think they are buying loyalty from Trump by their treasonous actions against the Constitution, when the reality is that Trump is Only Loyal to Himself. (And Putin)
Oh, and one more thing. The COVID catastrophe has played out EXACTLY as MangoWanker wished (with Pence's help), MAXIMISING CHAOS, always to the advantage of would-be dictators.
I hope, Greg, when you're not working on columns and the blog that you ARE working on a book. Or books. If LBJ was worthy of five volumes, Trump is at least eight or ten.
I'm old enough to remember a time when a Republican president didn't mean what it seems to mean now: a healthy dose of corruption with their conservatism. But, as we've learned, the conservatism is all fake, and all that's left is the corruption. Stuart Stevens' book is called "It Was All a Lie," and we're discovering just how true that is. Everything they say and do seems forced, insincere, and only designed to help themselves. They use their "conservatism" to be crooks behind the scenes. Trump, however, was never told that it was supposed to be "behind the scenes," not out in everyone's face. And now here we are. Trump AND the Trumplicans are trying desperately to make lies into the truth to, once again, cover their own asses, and hold onto power they neither deserve nor are able to manage.
Pence tries to seem different, but he gave me the creeps from the first moment I saw him. There is something deeply nefarious about him, but he knows how to keep things hidden. His problem is, like the song says, "you can't hide your lyin' eyes." Shortly after Trump's inauguration 100 years ago, Pence started being seen, in public, looking at Trump like they'd spent several summers on Brokeback Mountain. At first I thought, "well, what's that about?" Then I realized that Pence was making the mistake we've probably all made at one time or another: overcompensating. I'd imagine that as much as his piousness will allow, Pences HATES Trump and everything he stands for. But, like any good Republican, who has never even bothered to look up what "integrity" means, he's been eating shit for four years, and I'm sure assumes that will serve him in the future.
It's disgusting. All of it. I am STILL struggling with the fact that after four years of Trump, 74 million people said, "yeah, give me some more of that!" I'd have guessed that up to 35-40 million would vote for Trump to continue to "make the libs cry," but 74 million is a serious problem, without a solution.
What I'm still wondering is: in 21 days, Pence and Mother vacate the Naval Observatory, and then? What will he do? Where will he go? I remember him starting a PAC in 2017 shortly after the inauguration, and could NOT figure out why he would do that, but it's stuck with me all this time, so maybe there's something there. Pence, for all of his quirks, is still an enigma, and I want to see him, along with everyone else, exposed before we jettison the Trump administration to the dustbin of history. He's got skeletons, and clearly, a big closet to keep them in.
Great quote from Fr. Merrin, and fitting too. The White House, in addition to the sanitizing that's going to have to happen before Joe's team moves in, could also probably do with a couple of, "THE POWER OF CHRIST COMPELS YOU!!"s too.
What the HELL is with Rasmussen? I knew they were right of center, but I didn't think they'd toss away whatever credibility they had for Trump. I've had that thought A LOT since 2015: "for Trump? FOR TRUMP?" The mind boggles.
(by Greg Olear, article) After the election, Pence chaired the Trump Transition Team, which members included Mike Flynn, Rudy Giuliani, Jeff Sessions, K.T. McFarland, Steve Bannon, Devin Nunes, Steve Mnuchin, Newt Gingrich, Cathy McMorris Rodgers, Rebekah Mercer, Kellyanne Conway, Chris Christie, Chris Collins, Pam Bondi, Reince Priebus, Jared Kushner, and Ivanka, Eric, and Donald Trump, Jr.—the Legion of Doom, basically.
"and Pence was in charge". That statement almost made me fall off my chair !!! Oh, how I would have loved to have been a fly on the wall in that room. My imagination runs wild though. I can picture it perfectly.
I am so glad you decided to write about Pence. I like to think of him like a wet dishrag, limp.
I have never watched the Sopranos, I guess it's time I made popcorn and gave it a go. Thanks, Greg this was a FUN read.
you all need bigger hearts. this one knocks it out of the park Mr. Olear. I never thought Pence was anything other than your accounting of him. His cruelty, his repressed self, his insertion by Paulie Ostrich Coat . . . He's a very dirty boy and I live long enough to see it all come out.
I never thought about all the chances Pence and the GOP had to rescue the nation from Trump, and the only reasonable conclusion to draw is that they are all in on Trump's crimes because they are all piece of property at this point. That transition team is bursting with crimers. I want all the dirt. I still think that the hacked but never released RNC emails are the fire source and I really don't understand why that factoid has just died and everyone on the bus is OK with that. Why did Lady G roll over? Why did Flake and Corker get the phuck out of dodge--that smells like intentional distancing. Mittens is covered by "i wasn't around" for all that. Liza and Ben Sasse are the biggest puzzles for me. Susan Collins husband does business in Russia. It's all about the dirty dirty money. i want all the dirt on the table. why is that so tough?
The fact Pence is barely 60 and acts like he is 80 is another bizarre characteristic of this man made of wood. When is the reckoning with the religious right going to happen?
As ever, a painfully cogent report on the criminals at the top of our “democracy.” Yet will any of these mobsters get their due under Biden, if under “God?” Doubtful. Soul crushing shit, Greg. But thank you. LB
I’m in total agreement with your take on Mike Pence, his role as Vice President, and his more than obvious lies, so telling when he blushes, turns all serious or is indignant at the question.
I’ve always wondered why Paul Manafort would have even known Pence, never mind choosing him as Trumps running mate, after all Manafort spent much of his time in Ukraine, or Russia, handling the oligarch Deripaska campaigns etc. Did Putin or mafya even know who Pence was?
Did Manafort’s partner Gates know about these matters and did he tell the feds when he made the deal?
This goes back to my thoughts on why Republicans support Trump in the first place-way back to the initial hacking of the DNC and the RNC. There would have been plenty of dirt to be had on every Republican by hacking their email, likely there would also been a few that already had ties to Russia or Ukraine for business dealings-ie Devin Nunes and his winery business-possibly loans from those oligarchs in Russia/Ukraine. Certainly it’s said that Rand Paul also had ties there, who knows why, but he’s certainly showing his treason now.
Trumpkins still supporting Trump do so because of his policy to wipe out everything Obama did while president, Trumps deregulation, and tax breaks, gives the 1% more money to play the rising stock market—$$ is their god, making more money for those who have money is sport.
Well.
First, I think the GOP is as crooked as the day is long, and the lightly-laundered Russian campaign funds have locked them into obedience to Putin & Co.
Second, the Tea Party proved that assholes could take ahold of the primary process, for which the majority of the party were simply uninterested. Thus, all the GOP crooks and their crimes would be exposed after their defeat in the rabid base-controlled primaries.
Third, with MangoWanker at the top, and the BarrWanker as AG, they knew (and still know) they will never be prosecuted as long as they keep MangoWanker in the White House. This is why so many signed onto the various "overthrow the election" gambits. They are desperate.
Fourth, they are all packed and ready to move to Moscow in 2021. Just look at the Republican camping trip to Moscow in 2018. They were scoping out dachas north of Moscow to flee for retirement.
Fifth, all the GOP traitors think they are buying loyalty from Trump by their treasonous actions against the Constitution, when the reality is that Trump is Only Loyal to Himself. (And Putin)
Oh, and one more thing. The COVID catastrophe has played out EXACTLY as MangoWanker wished (with Pence's help), MAXIMISING CHAOS, always to the advantage of would-be dictators.
For the record, Mike Pence is not handsome
I appreciate the Phoebe Snow reference!
Weird to have *just* finished the Sopranos in time to help understand what is going on here. That show should be required viewing.
I hope, Greg, when you're not working on columns and the blog that you ARE working on a book. Or books. If LBJ was worthy of five volumes, Trump is at least eight or ten.
I'm old enough to remember a time when a Republican president didn't mean what it seems to mean now: a healthy dose of corruption with their conservatism. But, as we've learned, the conservatism is all fake, and all that's left is the corruption. Stuart Stevens' book is called "It Was All a Lie," and we're discovering just how true that is. Everything they say and do seems forced, insincere, and only designed to help themselves. They use their "conservatism" to be crooks behind the scenes. Trump, however, was never told that it was supposed to be "behind the scenes," not out in everyone's face. And now here we are. Trump AND the Trumplicans are trying desperately to make lies into the truth to, once again, cover their own asses, and hold onto power they neither deserve nor are able to manage.
Pence tries to seem different, but he gave me the creeps from the first moment I saw him. There is something deeply nefarious about him, but he knows how to keep things hidden. His problem is, like the song says, "you can't hide your lyin' eyes." Shortly after Trump's inauguration 100 years ago, Pence started being seen, in public, looking at Trump like they'd spent several summers on Brokeback Mountain. At first I thought, "well, what's that about?" Then I realized that Pence was making the mistake we've probably all made at one time or another: overcompensating. I'd imagine that as much as his piousness will allow, Pences HATES Trump and everything he stands for. But, like any good Republican, who has never even bothered to look up what "integrity" means, he's been eating shit for four years, and I'm sure assumes that will serve him in the future.
It's disgusting. All of it. I am STILL struggling with the fact that after four years of Trump, 74 million people said, "yeah, give me some more of that!" I'd have guessed that up to 35-40 million would vote for Trump to continue to "make the libs cry," but 74 million is a serious problem, without a solution.
What I'm still wondering is: in 21 days, Pence and Mother vacate the Naval Observatory, and then? What will he do? Where will he go? I remember him starting a PAC in 2017 shortly after the inauguration, and could NOT figure out why he would do that, but it's stuck with me all this time, so maybe there's something there. Pence, for all of his quirks, is still an enigma, and I want to see him, along with everyone else, exposed before we jettison the Trump administration to the dustbin of history. He's got skeletons, and clearly, a big closet to keep them in.
Oh! Two things I missed in my first comment:
Great quote from Fr. Merrin, and fitting too. The White House, in addition to the sanitizing that's going to have to happen before Joe's team moves in, could also probably do with a couple of, "THE POWER OF CHRIST COMPELS YOU!!"s too.
What the HELL is with Rasmussen? I knew they were right of center, but I didn't think they'd toss away whatever credibility they had for Trump. I've had that thought A LOT since 2015: "for Trump? FOR TRUMP?" The mind boggles.
'...outright sedition in the U.S. Capitol...'(article)
written/published
29 December 2020
Rasmussen quotes Stalin in tweet on US election
BY ZACK BUDRYK - 12/28/20 1:08 PM ET
(Article: Greg Olear, Prevail, ref.)
(by Greg Olear, article) After the election, Pence chaired the Trump Transition Team, which members included Mike Flynn, Rudy Giuliani, Jeff Sessions, K.T. McFarland, Steve Bannon, Devin Nunes, Steve Mnuchin, Newt Gingrich, Cathy McMorris Rodgers, Rebekah Mercer, Kellyanne Conway, Chris Christie, Chris Collins, Pam Bondi, Reince Priebus, Jared Kushner, and Ivanka, Eric, and Donald Trump, Jr.—the Legion of Doom, basically.